doesnt his chest look like a crossbow

So since the search point that was uploaded recently follows the exact area I was in December, I will tell you how I got to that point from both the picture and verse:

I read a thorough history of the Lost Colony and studied the picture to its fine detail. Actually when I first started noticing the hidden maps was on image 7(New Orleans), but I digress. There is a hidden map here as well. It is down and to the left of the image where that first Bell is at the bottom. Lo It is the statue of Queen Elizabeth, that sits in the Elizabethan Gardens. Now from there the service road is shown leading to the bay. The image above even has the road name spelled out 'pear pad' in black scrawl tiny letters. It goes left and a cypress tree is formed with the trunk of it at the edge of the Arch window at the floor and shading is used for the tree. The grid here is M-2, N-2 somewhere in between you can make out a circle on the trunk of the tree with either BCP or CRO (Byron's Initials or the Croaton carved into the tree). (It is hard to tell which).

So I convinced my wife to take a stop on the outer banks before Christmas this past December and she dropped me and my son off at the loop edge right at the end of Pear Pad road. My son and I walked to the edge and saw the wing monument and I noticed a little path to the right into the woods between the clearing and the cemetery that is also to the right as you look towards the bay. We went right into the woods and BAM what I think is THE TREE BP himself carved was laying on the ground before me. It is still there. I probed, but did not find a thing.

I will upload a picture I took of the tree and what appears to be carved out some 30+ years ago..

Guys I just found something you over looked. I can't believe I didnt see it either but that circle thing near the spoon is actually the parking lot for a park! I have an image i can upload but we may be close to finding this

I think this casque should be the first found since Cleveland. If it is under the tree I was probing around, then it is probably really deep. Once you get down a few feet there are pockets where the now dead roots just go down and there is no end in sight. (It is like it is hollow. And it is really soft sand as well. If BP tried to protect the box by putting it in the roots of the tree it was probably pushed down by the roots. I am gonna try to get out there again sometime soon.

Did these guys find pieces of a casque? Probably not, but interesting none the less.

https://weather.com/news/news/north-carolina-roanoke-island-artifacts-pottery-lost-colony

So next season of American Horror Story is most likely going to be about the Lost Colony:

http://mobi.perezhilton.com/2016-08-01-american-horror-story-season-6-theme-roanoke-croatoan-tree-lost-colony-farm-cult-fx#.V5_6A3NMFnE

There is an X on the rock above and a little right of the handle of the spoon. It is on the full brick bottom left hand corner

The skirt that the armor is sitting on resembles the underside of the top of palm tree: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Sabal_sp._Lisa_2.jpg

Curious if anyone has ever found out what the red petals or whatever they are that are coming out from underneath the armor. The two casques that have been found there has been an object the casque was found near in the both pictures (ex. the post in the Chicago picture, the Italian Gardens in Cleveland... Not to mention both clues appear to be centered in both photos as if to grab out attention). I feel that whatever the petals???, the sphere or anything other centered in the photo is where the casque may be. It's a stretch, but anything is worth a chance after so many years.

Also interesting to note that there is a cross in the middle of the centre building in the lost colony set. FYI

could all the bubbles in the pictures represent the circles in the roads/ roundabouts in that area? Could it possibly be in the paved circle at the end of pear pad road? that area is also right next to the cemetery so it might explain all the crosses in the picture.
maybe someone else has had this hypothesis before- i don't know; i am relatively new to this hunt. it seems more logical to bury it there (just like the Chicago one was buried right next to the road) rather than in the Elizabethan gardens or under a tree in the theater.
comments? criticism? i only live a few hours from that area so i am interested in searching in person soon.

has anyone noticed the image of the dogs head L-8-LOOKS LIKE THE BRIM OF ITS NOSE IS HIGHLIGHTED also the state tree is the dogwood,if you go on google earth and go to ROANOKE ISLAND,at the end of pear pad road there is a circle turn about on the right hand side just as you enter the circle there is a clearing and in that clearing at 35*56'19.75 N x 75*43'04.54W THERE IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DOGWOOD TREE and to the north is the wing,just a theory.

I am also new to this, having seen recent the episode of Expedition Unknown. However, I've read and seen many things about Roanoke Island since I was a kid, and as soon as I saw this picture, I noticed something right away. The Hook on the arm was mentioned as possibly Cape Cod or a halberd, but I recognized it right away as Albemarle Sound, just rotated and mirrored. The image even has the notch that aligns with the site under investigation after a map discovery a few years ago. From there I started to recognize other features, such as the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers, and contours that match the general coastal features, even into the Chesapeake Bay. From this perspective, the key lines up nearly perfectly with Roanoke Rapids (a clue for the name). In fact, there is a circle that lines up exactly where Roanoke Island is, if the hook is Albemarle Sound.

I have labeled the features with the corresponding geographical features.
http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/123134472/Image%203%20ArmCoast.png

I know this doesn't provide any specifics for the location, but I feel like it corroborates the idea of this being related to Roanoke Island.

Excellent work, Drumman! There are a few unsolved things in the image I knew had to have significance but could not come up with a solution. You just solved two of them! I had been thinking the fingers on the right hand itself had something to do with the way the NC coastline takes the sharp turn to the southwest. The item that turns out to be Albemarle Sound was another thing. With that info, I would say the base part of the 'bump' on the right wrist of the armor is the Wright Brothers Memorial. I think the ball (satellite?) and the bit joining the two may have significance to another part of the image but I'm working on that.

Does anyone have an idea what the significance is of the stuff coming out of the bottom part of the armor is? Due to the color and the spikes coming out, my first basic thought was a stylized pinecone but that just does not feel right. I do believe there is something there to figure out though. I don't know if it has to do with the shoreline (docks, etc.) like in the Boston image. Manteo doesn't have a skyline per se. Not sure if it will have anything to do with determining a dig site, but would like to come up with some plausible explanation.

In trying to figure out an inspiration/source for the image, I have developed one theory - which will have to be in several posts due to length. I’m not claiming it to be a correct theory because as I went along, it seemed like I was finding clues to support a predetermined hypothesis. But, there are enough loosely fitting connections that I figured ‘what the heck’…go ahead and toss it out there in case it clicks with someone else and maybe leads to more progress on a solution.

So there is the disclaimer. Feel free to approve or disprove as you see fit! The free flowing thought process led not to a painting but to an artist, inventor and a man known for his interest in the flying machines like the Wright Brothers created.

My initial step was to think in very general terms what the image reminded me of in the world of classic art. Two things stood out: the knight and his stance. I tried the Smartify app but it did not make a match to any paintings in its digitized database.

With the outstretched arms, the first thought was Da Vinci’s Vitruvian Man (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitruvian_Man). I considered the lack of the circle and square around the figure. Perhaps the empty circle(s) in the Image 3 are to reflect this circle? In particular, the one above and to the left of the knight? Yeah, I know . . . not a strong connection, but I’m just following where my mind wanders.

Looking into Da Vinci a little more – in particular his sketches like Vitruvian Man – I discovered he created a robotic knight in the late 15th century (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_robot)! I was pretty excited until I saw the actual knight does not bear much resemblance to the one in Image 3. But this was at least enough to keep me on the hook.

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From there, honestly, the connections don’t get much stronger and could be nothing more than me trying to force a connection. But looking more at Da Vinci’s sketches and inventions, you can see the following:
• Horses were a popular subject for sketches. Perhaps this is a better explanation for the horse-like face of the knight than the geographic proximity of Nags Head? (https://www.google.com/search?q=da+vinci+horse+sketches&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWsJaF_vXYAhVLVWMKHSkeD54Q7AkIcw&biw=1600&bih=754)
• He devised plans for a giant crossbow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_crossbow). The crossbow in Image 3 has been pointed out before in the torso region of the knight’s armor.
• He developed a diving apparatus (http://www.davincilife.com/scuba-gear.html). The segmented portion of the diving suit’s sketch from shoulder to elbow bears a resemblance to the corresponding area on the knight’s armor.
• The hands of the knight struck me as prominent, too. Looking at the knight’s right hand, I had noticed the resemblance to the way North Carolina’s shoreline cuts back to the southwest below Cape Hatteras. Thanks to Drumman’s excellent work, we know how that hand actually fits into Image 3’s solution. Looking at the knight’s left hand, I have found no such significance. The best tie-in I can come up with is that when you look at most of Da Vinci’s sketches of hands, they are often in a similar pose as the left hand of the knight (http://www.drawingsofleonardo.org/images/hands.jpg)
• The ball above the knob/bump on the knight’s right wrist (which I think is the Wright Brother’s Memorial), resembles the cannonballs from Da Vinci’s triple cannon (the middle image as you scroll down on this page: http://derekbair.blogspot.com/2011/06/leonardo-da-vinci-cannon-found.html). Another tenuous connection, at best, I’d agree.

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The symbol on the right side of the knight’s mouthpiece (or to our left as we look at it), has a single dot/hole surrounded by six others. It shares a general resemblance to Da Vinci’s Flower of Life sketch (https://georgiaahimsa.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/647/). The Flower of Life also has tie-ins with the Vitruvian Man.
• Many of these sketches appear to come from Da Vinci’s Codex Atlanticus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Atlanticus).


So . . . what does all this mean?!? I really do not know. Da Vinci is thought to have hidden images in his artworks just as BP and JJP have done. Da Vinci is known to have written in a mirror image script and possibly incorporate mirror images into some of his artwork. Maybe this is a subtle hint that clues within Image 3 are also backwards/mirror images such as the knight’s right arm and the spoon & pear pad. Maybe there are more mirror image clues to be found?

Ultimately, I have not found anything that leads me closer to a precise dig site. I also am no closer to figuring out the significance of the reddish stuff coming out from the bottom of the knight’s armor. I have read (from a contributor on Q4T) the suggestion it is Carolina Allspice but am not sold on that at the moment (http://www.mortonarb.org/trees-plants/tree-plant-descriptions/carolina-allspice).

[Mercifully concluded in the next post]

There you have it. There sure are a lot of loose connections but I wanted to share in case it shook something loose for someone else. A few other notes on the image I have noticed and would like to share in case they mean something further down the line:
• The line down the middle of the knight’s armor (from the breastplate down to the ‘belt’ where the jewel is located) is not centered it is slightly off center to the left.
• I also suspect the pattern of the belt is significant as it dips down to the squared-off form where the jewel is located. This same pattern can be seen in the overview of Fort Raleigh if you take the shoreline of the sound to be the main/upper part of the belt and consider the Waterside Theater to be the area where the belt dips down and forms the squared-off. If you use this theory with the above observation, maybe it is another clue saying the dig site is just off to the left side of the Waterside Theater. Which, of course, is exactly where the current best guess is already stated. The ‘dip down’ pattern can also been seen elsewhere such as in the reconstructed earthen fort, possibly in the tops of fence lines, etc.
• Just to keep things confused, if you take the shoreline to be the top part of the belt, you can also make a case that the border outline of Elizabethan Gardens kind of makes the same pattern seen in the armor belt. Plus some of the patterns seen in the armor resemble some of the plantings within the Gardens. (Such as the suspected incomplete Maltese Cross and the Sunken Gardens). Since I agree that BP would have avoided burying the casque in the Elizabethan Gardens, I have ruled out this observation.

Thanks for reading . . . and thanks especially to all of you who contribute to this wealth of information. With the significant increase in interested hunters, I look forward to seeing one of the remaining casques unearthed in the near future!

I put this on the solution page, but figured I'd put it here as well. I think there is little doubt that this treasurer was buried on Roanoke Island. The theory about it being buried under the fiberglass Croatoan tree is suspect, as the tree was first created in 2010. Prior to that, the Croatoan sign was hanging on a tree near where the fiberglass tree is now, but the location varied over the years, and I have not been able to find a photo of where it was in 1981. My best guess is that Preiss buried it next to the old watergate of the Elizabethan Gardens, as the iron gate that was at that location in the early 80s had a strong resemblance to the armor. Once I figure out how, I'll post some photos of it. The red sword-like skirt around the armor's waist probably was meant to refer to the yucca plants at the base of the stone pillars the gate hung from. There also is a brochure of the Eliz Gardens from 1981 which has a map on which a path leading to the watergate looks remarkably like the reversed image of the gnome hanging from the armor, and which also talks about Mr. Bell being one of the people who was instrumental in designing the planting for the gardens. And, the watergate would be the first thing seen if you arrived at the gardens from the water, and the gate would be the last thing touched as you left the gardens in that direction. Also, the strange form hanging horizontally from the armors right arms looks just like the latch on the old watergate. Unfortunately, there have been several hurricanes since 1981, two of which have washed all of the ground away from all sides of the gate, and one which collapsed the gate into the water. If the treasure was buried there, it is long gone. On a side note, they did recently use ground-penetrating radar all around the existing gate, and did a dig there, and found nothing. I think this treasure is lost for good, unless someone finds it on the bottom of Roanoke sound.

Here goes some of my findings. Some you may agree with, some not. Not sure if any will help with the final search but here goes Rainman style.
1. E5-6: One of the first things I noticed about this pictures were the devil horns. I know it looks like it goes with the horse head, but it's not horse ears- I think its devil horns for "Kill Devil Hills" in the area of the Wright Memorial.
2. E4/5 and E6/7: the side brims of the helmet are actually depictions of the side view of the Wright Memorial: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kenlund/14467556013. Hope this comes out as a link.
3. E5-6: Mind blowing moment!!! The eye slit shape seemed weird to me but it came to me and it is for real. The eye opening is the wing of a plane. The front of the plane goes up to the top of the helmet and the back straight down. Turn the image to the side to confirm this for yourself. I think LOOK NORTH AT THE WING can have a duel meaning of look at the image just below the helmet eye opening "wing." That could mean that you don't not need to directly view the Wing across the water from the dig site.
4. F5-6: My best guess on the two symbols on either side of the mouth are a representation of the English and Native Americans. English represented by the cross symbol. The Native Americans represented by the dot surrounded by six more dots. Here is a watercolor by John White referencing the Native Americans there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_White_(colonist_and_artist)#/media/File:North_carolina_algonkin-rituale02.jpg. The image has the same number of "dots." Also, I think the posts that are representations of these are at the historical site but not sure if they were there in 1981.

More to add in a bit.

5. E5-6: Under the "wing" of the plane, not sure what's going on. It looks like a rope or a tree formed from two trees that twisted together- that is in white. Under that, from the chin, it looks like a lamp post with a light on each side for the nostrils. I have a feeling that this area is super important but need to look around the site to see what this could be. The symbols on each side of the mouth I mentioned in #4 I think are references to the Lost Colony play pointing to the Waterside Theater. The lamp/light may also indicate the play with settlers and Native Americans under the lights. The top of the "lights" also seem to form the tail of the "plane" that I referenced in #3 above.
6. F5: The cross on the chest plate goes with other figures on the chest plate. This cross I think references the Elizabethan Gardens. Not sure if its the bigger area or the smaller area but here is the map link: https://outerbanksthisweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/ob_very_large/public/business/to-do/eg-map-2016.jpg?itok=xEbSSGSc. Either the #14 or #9 garden in the graphic.
7. M6: The pedestal seems to hold clues in the shapes of the bricks. I think this is just referencing the Lost Colony. Here is the image that keeps popping up in my brain that corresponds: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/05/04/us/ROANOKE-2-1336087124226/ROANOKE-2-jumbo.jpg.
7. F6: Figures left chest plate seems to have the Waterside theater represented with people as some of the dots. It is turned sideways so the stage is in the middle of the chest and facing his left arm.
8. F7: Need confirmation from a local or old aerial photos to show it but I think the baseball image is where there used to be a baseball field I'm guessing on the other side of the square parking lot. If you Google Earth the area and look to the right of the parking lot, there is an area that does not have really any trees and the soil is reddish. I thought it could be an old baseball field.

9. M6: The brick pattern looks like a hidden clue. I think it is actually another reference to the Lost Colony. This is the image that I think corresponds to it: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/05/04/us/ROANOKE-2-1336087124226/ROANOKE-2-jumbo.jpg.
Now for some hidden number fun, won't repeat the larger 36 and 75 that seem pretty obvious. I've read about others that are a little iffier but check these out:
10. L7: Look at the right side of the top of the pedestal. The part that sticks out the most. Now zoom your screen to 300x and you will see a "35"
11. L7: Look from the right edge of the top of the pedestal to the line coming off the middle of what we think is the representation of the Waterside Theater. Zoom 300x again and you can make out what appears to say "Me 65."
12. K4: Under the left edge of the window sill it seems to have a "5" with a "30" just above and to the right of it seen again on 300x magnification.

I saw the numbers "32" and "45" yesterday on the left side of the pedestal but not seeing them today so will need to keep looking.
13. L/M2: It seems to spell out "open" on the ground to the right of the cross at 300x magnification.
14. I-L/2-3: I think the fairy/gnome is a representation of the map. I was interested in the last post by Manteo. Here is the image I was thinking of: http://thesecret.pbworks.com/f/Image03_Map_2.jpg. I thought the leg going back was the path to the parking lot, the leg straight down goes to the fort and then that has a string that goes down to a woman. Maybe if this plaque was there?: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kenlund/14273782828. I thought the arms that are holding the bubble represent the small paths to the Waterside.

I think to me there are at least three representations of the Waterside theater on here. The image on the bottom right, the carnation bubble and the figures left chest. The problem is knowing what to target: an object, tree, etc. All three representations of the Waterside seem to include a path that if your facing the theater goes out from the stage area on the left towards the Elizabethan Gardens. It is clear on the bottom right image in the stones, it is coming out of the carnation bubble and even has a small square between that path and the dangling key and finally it may be represented on the armor. If the circle in the middle of the armor is the stage- the path could be represented by the sword shape that goes straight down the middle of the abdomen. This would be off to the left if you believe that the audience is on his left breast. I think that the weird metal structure that is referenced in the picture under his arms and I think helps with props during the play would be a good place to look. I don't know enough about the path from the theater toward the Elizabethan Gardens to say much more.

M4: Sorry to add another comment. I see the “32” and “45” now. It is along the left side of the pedestal just above the wall trim. The more I look the more letters and numbers I’m starting to see. I’m not sure if this is scribblings that are not meant to be on the picture or if they are real. I was better able to see these two numbers on my cell phone when I enlarged it. They are rotated clockwise.

I9: There are too many numbers that I am seeing. I found "47" here. There "4" is mostly straight up but the "7" is tilted counterclockwise. Look at it around 200-240x zoom on your computer to see it best.

When I asked about photos of the carved tree in prior posts, I was not referencing the one from the theatre but the one from the other user’s quest that he found that appeared to be an actual fallen tree that was carved.

I am not sure if this has been mentioned before as it is somewhat benign...but to maybe prove a point at the base of the stone footer P-O 5-6 is John Jude Palencar's signature hidden in the image..(the point that their is hidden writing in the images..I know..most people disagree with me...)

The knights helmet appears to look like a WWI helmet(doughboys) not sure if there is any significance or maybe a WWI statue near the area I. Question. Also the shape of the knights face looks like a camel or horse. Above the right shoulder it looks like the number three sideways in the cloud.

just updated the flikr account for my pics. https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikehunt1977/albums/72157689767127520 just added lost colony pics and will add pear pad road and elizabethan gardens pics later.

My observations:

1. The North Carolina state bird is a Cardinal, which could be represented in the skirting under the armor.
2. The 3 bubbles (1 small, 1 medium, and 1 large) could represent the three roundabouts in the general area of the Waterside Theatre and the Elizabethan Gardens, the small one being at the end of Pear Pad Rd, the medium one being National Park Dr, and the large one being Fort Raleigh Rd.
3. The "Maltese Cross" on the right side of the helmet instead appears to be an aerial view of Elizabethan Gardens. If you look at the walkway in the center, it forms a cross and the 4 statues in between are the dots on the mask.

For anyone interested in the history of the Lost Colony, the June 2018 issue of National Geographic has an article on it: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/06/lost-colony-roanoke-history-theories-croatoan/

We were on site at the Wright Memorial, Fort Raleigh/Waterside Theater, and other locations. Does anyone know the exact dates that the benches and audience seating were renovated in the theater? It looks like concrete terraces were added at some point and the new stadium style seats were bolted to the concrete.

M8 - I believe this is a pea on the spool representing Pea Island National Wildlife Refuge which is south of Wright Brothers' National Memorial.

Some observations on Image 3:
The armour seems to be modelled on a portrait of Sir Walter Raleigh, confirming the FRNHS area. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155091558/Image_3_Sir_Walter_Raleigh.jpg
The figure seems to be in a crucifix pose – maybe a reference to Queen Elizabeth I, who wanted to “explore and colonize territories unclaimed by Christian kingdoms" and instructed Raleigh to do so. The armour has two Christ like wounds to abdomen and wrist.
The armour from chest down if turned upside down resembles a tribal mask as used by some Native American tribes such as the False Face Society, the Image then has the jewel in a crown – bearing a “….Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen” from TLOTJ, p.20.
(this mask on the right is reproduction representation). http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155091561/Image_3_armour_tribal_mask.jpg
The ‘fabric’ below the armour may represent the seeds of the Carolina red Maple. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155091567/acer_rubrum_seed.jpg
Lost Colony production connections to Image 3:
Interestingly in the play, some actors position themselves on a pole like in the image – one in a crucifix position with feathers hanging from his outstretched arms and two other actors forming ‘spars’ below him. Also the soldiers in the production have red fabric hanging from below their armour similar to a brigandine in this YouTube clip. I don’t know if this was the case in the 80’s production. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155091570/Image_3_similarities.jpg

J-K-L3
The nymph dancing seems to be based on "The Bubble" a bronze and glass statue by Harriet Whitney Frishmuth, 1880-1980. It's currently on display in the Crystal Bridges art museum, but definitely wasn't in Arkansas in 1980/1981. The artist would have recently passed and would be in headlines at the time of the writing the book.
The sculpture is based on a burlesque dance. The same artist also created a bust of Woodrow Wilson...
https://crystalbridges.org/blog/the-bubble-an-artist-and-her-model/

I wonder if BP gave JJP this playbill for the 1980 production of The Lost Colony to use as inspiration for his painting. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155689914/Image_3_%26_TLC_playbill_1980.jpg
The hands are especially similar. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155689917/Image_3_%26_TLC_playbill_1980_hands.jpg

The crucifix like pose on a pedestal with a church like background in Image 3 I think represents the cross which stood on an altar in the gabled ‘church’ on the Waterside Theatre stage. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155770407/Image_3_Waterside_Theatre_cross.jpg
I also think that the armour left breastplate in the image has the ‘path beckoning’ on it, leading us from the ticket office to the theatre backstage area. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155770416/Image_3_the_path_that_beckons.jpg
The crack above “The land near the window” in the image may also be a direction clue to look north at the WBM which is one of the arm rings in Image 3. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/155770419/Image_3_look_north_at_the_WBM.jpg