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Image 8 Verse 1 Solution

Page history last edited by Oregonian 8 months ago

Synopsis

  The casque associated with Image 8 and Verse 1 is (or was) buried in Houston, Texas on the edge of McGovern Lake in Hermann Park.  The coordinates of the most likely burial spot are 29°43'03.9"N 95°23'31.7"W (29.717751, -95.392138).  This solution is very heavily dependent on an understanding of how the features in the area were laid out in 1981, so readers might want to begin by reading the Hermann Park history page.

 

  This solution also depends on an understanding of how Byron Preiss used the intersections between lines of trees to pinpoint the dig spot for a casque.  Readers should review the solution to the Chicago puzzle to see how the removal of such trees can complicate a search.

 

  In the solution below, latitudes & longitudes get us to Houston (from the image).  The "number 982" sends us to an antique steam locomotive at Hermann Park (from the verse).  By lining up the train smokestack and a fountain in the lake (image) and stepping across the tracks of the miniature train (verse), we should arrive at a group of four trees (verse).  That spot also gives a single-point perspective over the receding ties on the train bridge (image & verse).  The casque was buried in the middle of the four trees.

 

 

 

Detailed Solution

The solution given below will present clues from the verse and the image in a way that narrows down the search area to that specific point.  Bits of the original image are shown in the left column in cells with a tan background.  Lines from the verse are in the same column but with a yellow background.  (For more detail about any particular clue, check the page for Image 8 or Verse 1.) 
Clues Interpretations
    The branches of the tree form a "95" and a "96."  The city of Houston is almost perfectly framed by those longitudes.  No other major city in North America is within that range.
    The number "29" appears at the base of the main pillar, turned sideways.  The number "30" appears in the branches.  Houston is in between those latitudes.

----- Original Message -----

Subject: Re: verse 1 the secret

Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:58:49 EDT

 

In a message dated 5/18/04 12:06:52 PM, wilhouse writes:

<thx wilhouse>

 

there is a treasure in houston. that's all i can tell you.

 

  Before he died in 2005, Byron Preiss, the developer and editor of The Secret, had an e-mail exchange with a member of the Q4T website who goes by the username of "wilhouse."  The e-mail explicitly confirmed that there was a casque in Houston. 

 

(For the sake of clarity, the words written by Preiss are shown in blue text.  The snippet he included from wilhouse's original email is inside the < and > brackets.)

 

The clues up to this point make it very clear that we are looking at a treasure location in the Houston metropolitan area.

 

 

1) Fortress north

2) Cold as glass

  Downtown Houston has many tall, glass-covered skyscrapers that give it a cold, "fortress" appearance.  If these buildings are the "fortress" to the north, it would make sense to look south of the downtown area for an place where the treasure could be buried.

 

Houston Skyline

The old Glassell School of Art (Image via Wikimedia)

 

  Alternatively, the first two lines of the verse could be a reference to the Glassell School of Art, which opened to the public in January of 1979.  The building had a boxy, fortress-like appearance, with tall, flat walls on all sides.  The walls were covered with highly reflective glass panels that were meant to keep the building cool by reflecting sunlight.

 

  Given the timing of the building's opening and the double meaning of the word "glass" and the location of the school at the northern tip of Hermann Park (5101 Montrose Blvd), this is very likely the reference we are meant to use.

 

  The old Glassell building was torn down in 2015 and has been replaced by a new structure with a different design.

  Anyone examining a map of public parks in the Houston area would likely notice the strong resemblance between the two shapes shown on the left.  The column topped with a sphere is a very good match for the rectangular reflection pool beside the circular Sam Houston monument in Hermann Park.  (The image even makes the comparison more obvious by giving the shape the same orientation as the map and by putting the north star at the top.)

 

  Hermann Park is almost due south of the downtown Houston area and it is at the southern tip of Montrose Blvd, just two blocks south of the Glassell School of Art, so it works with either interpretation of the "fortress north" clue from the verse.

 

3) Friendship south

 

Photo by Flickr user Xiquinhosilva.  Used under a Creative Commons license.

  The connection to this particular park is also indicated by the verse.  In 1981 Hermann Park had a "Taipei Friendship Pavilion" that was a bicentennial gift from the City of Taipei to the City of Houston in 1976. 

 

  Notably, there were two such pavilions given to U.S. cities in that year as part of the same project.  One pavilion went to Houston and plays a role in this puzzle.  The other pavilion went to Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, where it appears to be involved in the solution to the Image 1 puzzle.

  At this point both the early lines of the verse and the prominent features of the image are steering us to Hermann Park.  But the park itself is enormous.  The representations of the camel and the rhino are there to narrow it down.  We should head to the entrance of the Houston Zoo.

 

4) Take your task

5) To the number

6) Nine eight two

  The verse confirms the same directions as the image.  An antique Southern Pacific steam engine numbered "982" was on display in Houston's Hermann Park for half a century, and these lines of the verse are a very strong reference to that.  The engine was moved around a few times before it left the park in 2007, but in 1981 it was located at the southeast corner of the lake beside the entrance to the zoo.  Most of the engine and its tender were painted black, but the "nose" of the engine, where the front smokestack was located, was painted a brilliant silver and was pointing to the west.  (For full details on how we reconstructed the locomotive's location, see the Hermann Park history page.)

 

(Image from SteamLocomotive.com; photo credit: Brian Flint)

 

Here's a large-scale map showing us the steps that have brought us to the southern edge of McGovern Lake.

 

 

 

At this point in the search, a treasure hunter following the clues would be expected to get out of the car and start a walking tour of the park. The starting point for the tour is Engine 982, beside the entrance to the Houston Zoo.  (All features on this and the following maps are shown as they appeared in 1981.)

 


 

7) Through the wood

8) No lion fears

  In the 1970's and 80's the Houston Zoo had a series of water fountains shaped like lions.  We don't have any definite evidence of placement, but it seems very possible that one of the fountains would be just west of Engine 982 outside the circular Visitors Services building for the zoo.

 

  (This interpretation is, admittedly, only a guess and will probably never be confirmed unless someone discovers an old photo taken in exactly the right spot.)

 

Lion Fountain

 

 

We are now west of Engine 982, at the southern edge of the lake.

 


 

9) In the sky the water veers

  In 1981 there was a fountain near the western edge of the lake that shot a single column of water straight up.  (The wind probably blew it to one side so it "veered.")

 

 

  Preiss is directing our attention to the fountain as we pass by because the view from this spot (in 1981) would have given us a powerful visual confirmation that we were in the right spot.

 

  The Miller Outdoor Theatre in Hermann Park has a distinctive design, with two dark, triangular sides that spread upwards to meet in a ridge with an upper point at the front.  The dark area under the turban of the man in Image 8 seems to represent the same shape.

 

  Standing at the southwest corner of the lake and looking to the northeast over the fountain in 1981, one would have been able to see the top of the outdoor theatre over the trees.  The similarity to the image would have told the viewer that he or she was on the right track.

 

We are now at the southwestern corner of the lake, looking to the northeast over the top of the fountain.  The Miller Outdoor Theater is the purple shape in the upper-right corner of this map.

 

 

10) Small of scale
11) Step across

  Hermann Park has a miniature railroad that takes passengers on a loop through the area.  The train was installed in 1957 and was built to match one of the rail transport modelling scales.  This line is almost certainly telling us to continue our route around the lake and to step across the tracks for that train. 

 

  The current train route goes all around Hermann Park, but the route in 1981 was much shorter (see the thin grey line in the map above).  If the tracks are a boundary that we should only cross once, the loop formed by the train route at the northwestern corner of the lake significantly reduces our search area.

 

 

12) Perspective should not be lost

  This line is crucial.  The mention of "perspective" suggests we need to move into a place where we see objects positioned in the same perspective as in Image 8.  But standing in this spot, just northwest of the lake, a searcher in 1981 would only have 5 things to position:

  • the trees,
  • the train tracks,
  • the lake,
  • the fountain, and
  • Engine 982.

 

 

The lower right corner of Image 8 is filled with a large blue area that could represent a lake.  And coming up out of the lake there is a swirling, vertical shape that could reasonably represent a fountain.  But the shadow cast by the fountain appears to be the smokestack of a steam locomotive.  Most of Engine 982 was black and would have blended into shadows of the woods, but the smokestack was silver and would have been a bright and visible landmark across the lake.  (To get a sense of the enormous size and visibility of the Engine 982 silver smokestack, see this photo.) 

Putting all of these clues together, it seems reasonable that we should be trying to line up the fountain in the lake with the smokestack of Engine 982 on the far side.

 

 

 

We are now at the northwest corner of the lake near where the train crosses a small inlet on a bridge.  We have stepped across the tracks of the miniature train and we have lined up the fountain in the lake with the smokestack of Engine 982.  This progress puts us in the middle of a small group of four trees.

 

 

13) In the center of four alike

14) Small, split,

  The directions tell us to step across the tracks for the miniature train and then find four similar ground-level objects, and the most probable "four alike" items in this area would be the four trees where we are standing.  It's possible that they were relatively young ("small") and had breaking branches from neglect ("split").  Sure enough, in 1981 there were four trees forming a tight square exactly where the puzzle predicted we should find them.

 

 

The 1981 photo is so blurred that one might question whether there were really four separate trees in the spot.  There seem to be two dark ovals on the north side and two lighter-colored ovals on the south side.  One might suspect that the north ovals are shadows and the south ovals trees (or vice-versa). But compare the layout to the much sharper 1989 aerial.  Three of the trees are still there and are slightly larger, but the southeast tree is gone.  This proves that there were four trees in 1981 (because the upper-right oval would have disappeared along with the lower right oval if the pair only showed one tree and a shadow).

 

For a tantalizingly brief glimpse of our three trees, see the 7:07 mark in this 1989 home movie posted on YouTube.  Just as the train makes the bend to run northeast (heading toward the bridge), the camera pulls back from a close-up of the Warwick Towers Condos and gives a momentary shot of the three remaining trees before crossing to show the lake on the other side of the train.

 

 

15) Three winged and slight

  The aerial photo from 1964 (below) shows the same cluster of four trees beside the train tracks.  The southeast tree (the one closest to the train tracks) was fairly large, but the other three were small ("slight") suggesting that they had been recently planted.  If the new trees were left largely unattended, with no extra water or care, they would still have been significantly smaller than the southeast tree in 1981 when Preiss visited.

 

 

  Three of the trees are gone now, but the northeast tree still exists.  It is a post oak (Quercus stellata).  The blades of the leaves (shown below) have a lobe on each side of the midrib that sticks out like a wing.  Each leaf has the outline of an airplane or a bird in flight.  If the three newly-planted trees (NE, NW, & SW) were all the same species and the fourth tree (SE) was a different kind of oak, one would have "four alike... three winged and slight."

 

 

12) Perspective should not be lost

  As mentioned earlier, there were five landmarks that Preiss could expect us to put into perspective to find the right spot.  The lake, fountain, and locomotive smokestack can be put into a straight line to get us to the grove of four trees.  But what about the train tracks?

 

  Most of the 1981 miniature train route consisted of curves and loops, but there was exactly one spot where the tracks ran perfectly straight.  Someone looking down that particular stretch of track would see a perfect example of one-point perspective, where parallel lines seem to converge in the distance.  It's the same effect that we see in Image 8 when the lines of the brickwork converge in the distance.  And that one place where the tracks ran straight and where someone could have seen that form of perspective on the train route in 1981 was at the end of the train bridge over the inlet at the northwest edge of the lake.

 

 

 

 

 

The aerial photo below shows the relevant landmarks as they were positioned in 1981. (Positions of the tree trunks were determined by other aerial photos taken in subsequent winters, when the leaves were gone.)

 

Orange - the route of the miniature train, including the straight bridge over the inlet

White - trunks and canopies of the four landmark trees (labeled by compass position)
Red - the line of sight through the fountain to the locomotive smokestack

Green - the line of sight across the train bridge

 

 

 

We know that Byron Preiss took photos at each casque hiding spot and gave those images to John Jude Palencar to be incorporated into the paintings.  In Houston Preiss would have been standing beside the NW tree and he would have been facing northeast with a straight view across the train bridge.  Here's how Palencar incorporated that image into his painting.  The green and red lines are the same as in the map above.  Note how Palencar incorporated the receding train tracks and cross-ties into one-point perspective.

 

 

 

What this means is that Image 8 forms an abstract map of the spot where the casque was buried :

  • The blue area at lower right = the lake.
  • The checkered area at lower left = the train rails and crossties going off into the distance over the train bridge.
  • The curving "fishbone" pattern at lower center = the 1981 route of the miniature train.
  • The star at the upper left = the north star, telling us we're facing northeast.
  • The fellow with the distinctive peaked hood = the Miller Outdoor Theatre, which would be off to the right from the line of sight across the train bridge.
  • The whirlwind with the "trainspout" shadow falling to the right = the fountain that lines up with Engine 982 along a line going to the right (southeast) from where we're standing.
  • The central pillar = the NE tree of the four.
  • The position of the jewel, down and to the right of the central pillar = our casque location, on the diagonal between the NE tree and the SW tree.

 

 

Here's a Google Street View of the same spot (taken in December of 2014).  As above, we've highlighted the line of sight over the train bridge in green and the line of sight connecting the fountain and the front of Engine 982 in red.  The casque burial spot (represented in Image 8 by the gem) is below and to the right of the NE tree (the pillar in the painting).  To match up perfectly with the perspective in Image 8, Preiss probably stood slightly back and a few feet to the left when he took his photo.

 

 

16) What we take to be
17) Our strongest tower of delight
18) Falls gently
19) In December night

  These lines are a modification of a sentence from Pierre, or, The Ambiguities, written by Herman Melville in 1852.  The original sentence is "What we take to be our strongest tower of delight, only stands at the caprice of the minutest event — the falling of a leaf, the hearing of a voice, or the receipt of one little bit of paper scratched over with a few small characters by a sharpened feather."

 

  This, then, is our powerful confirmation that we are in the right place — standing in a grove of trees in Hermann Park not far from an outdoor sculpture called the Atropos Key.  The quote from the book is talking about the role of fate in our lives, and it is followed by a reference to "those Three Weird Ones, that tend Life's loom" (i.e., the three Fates).  And the oldest of the three Fates was... Atropos!

 

  Just imagine how incredibly satisfying it must have been for Byron Preiss to find the perfect, obscure, literary reference that ties everything in this puzzle together!
Consider:
- The quote from Herman Melville ties in with Hermann Park.
- The reference to the role of the three Fates ties in with the Atropos Key.
- The reference to "the falling of a leaf" ties in with the grove of trees where the casque was buried.

 

(Very cleverly done, Byron Preiss!  We salute you.)

 

 

20) Looking back from treasure ground
21) There's the spout!

22) A whistle sounds.

  The final lines tie in the Melville connection and describe what one can see from the treasure spot.  Moby Dick, Melville's best-known work, is basically a long story of sailors watching the ocean and shouting out when they see the spout of a whale.

 

  Looking back across the lake to where our walk started, we can see such a spout (the fountain) now lined up with Engine 982 (a steam train that would have had a whistle).  And, of course, we can hear the whistle of the miniature train as it makes its loop.

 

 

Here's a closer view of the hiding spot.  The train bridge is still in the same place, although most of the other features have changed.  Of the four original trees, SE was the first to go and a path was installed directly over where it once stood.  The NW tree disappeared soon after that.  The SW only disappeared around 2014 and there's still a depression in the ground, allowing us to find the SW-NE line.  If Preiss buried the casque where the SW-NE line intersected the NW-SE line, the burial spot is now under or beside a very hard path.  Recovery is going to be a challenge.

 

 

 

Final Location: 29°43'03.9"N 95°23'31.7"W

(Latitude: 29.717751, Longitude: 95.392138)

 

 

 

 

 

Bonus: Hermann Park Time Machine

The image and buttons below will allow you to compare McGovern Lake in Hermann Park at three important times:

  • In 1981, as it was when Preiss hid the casque,
  • In 1989, after the locomotive and fountain had been moved and one of the four trees was gone,
  • And in 2023, after the lake has been reshaped and the miniature train has been rerouted. 

The only three large landmarks that have remained in place over the past 40 years are the train bridge, the Miller Outdoor Theatre, and the Houston Zoo's circular Guest Services building (which can be seen at the bottom of every aerial photo).

 

As above, the smokestack-fountain line is in red and the sight line across the train bridge is in green.  The original train route is in orange and the modern train route is in blue.  To see any image in (much) higher resolution, just control-click on it and open it in a new tab.

 

1981 aerial
1981 aerial with landmarks
1981 aerial with sight lines
1981 aerial with landmarks and lines
1989 aerial
1989 aerial with landmarks
1989 aerial with 1981 sight lines
1989 aerial with landmarks and lines
2023 aerial
2023 aerial with landmarks
2023 aerial with 1981 sight lines
2023 aerial with landmarks and lines
 

 

 

Other Notes:

  • This solution explains why the casque hasn't been found despite the active searching in Houston over the past 35 years.  When Preiss buried the casque in 1980 or 1981, Engine 982 was on the southern edge of the lake, just east of the circular Visitor Services building (as shown in all the maps above).  That positioning was a crucial part of the puzzle and Preiss obviously thought that something as large and important as the locomotive wasn't likely to disappear.  But in 1982, the same year The Secret was published, the locomotive was moved!  It was repositioned on the eastern side of the lake (and the fountain in the lake was slightly shifted as well) making the lines of sight totally different.  Thus, from the very first point when the book was available, searchers would have needed aerial photos (or very good memories) to solve the clues and draw the correct line to the hiding spot.  Anyone trying to connect the fountain and smokestack in 1982 or later would have ended up in the wrong place. 
  • Preiss obviously visited several parks in the Houston area and he included bits of them in this puzzle as red herrings.  The stacked columns and the spacesuit footprint are borrowed from Tranquility Park.  The figure with the crossed arms is borrowed from Sam Houston Park.  But the strongest and most prominent features in the painting all confirm the location as Hermann Park.
  • Some treasure hunters through the years have wondered how Preiss managed to dig a 3-foot-deep hole in Houston, where the water table is fairly close to the surface.  If this solution is correct, the answer would be that Preiss buried the casque on the top of a slight rise, where he had more room to dig before hitting water.
  • People have also wondered how Preiss managed to dig the hole in an area as heavily-used as Hermann Park.  (One newspaper article at the time described the heavy visitor traffic and said the park was in danger of being "loved to death.")  If this solution is correct, Preiss went well away from the zoo and the antique locomotive and was in the middle of a grove of trees so he wouldn't even be noticed when the miniature train went by on the loop around him.
  • Hermann Park has undergone almost constant renovation and redesign over the past 35 years.  The northwestern corner of the lake has been substantially reshaped to create more varied terrain, and the miniature train has been rerouted onto a much longer track.  The precise spot where the casque was buried is now under a hard-packed sand-and-gravel path.  Whether the casque is still there depends almost entirely on how deeply the soil was disturbed when the path was being built.  Any attempt to recover the casque will be very challenging and will require the permission and active participation of the Hermann Park Conservancy.
  • Modern-day searchers won't be able to hide from view the way Preiss did.  Millions of footsteps have now compacted the soil and gravel over the burial spot into something almost as hard as asphalt.  There's no chance of digging with a normal shovel or even a pickaxe.  It will take something like a gas-powered concrete saw to get through that top layer of path.  Be sure to get permission from the park before you do any digging.
  • Good luck, Houston searchers!  Let us know if you find it. 

 

Comments (33)

Erin (LarkspurRuby7) said

at 9:10 pm on Dec 10, 2015

So many words, but I bothered to read them all. Worth it.

Great job on this Oregonian! I plan on going to Hermann Park for leisure time with my family, so I might get to see people there! Who knows, but I'm probably not allowed to bring a shovel. Not even a pole to check the dirt.

ash said

at 1:25 pm on Jun 24, 2016

The Djinn's shadow looks like an exact silhouette of the Space Shuttle from the side. Not definitive for finding the casque but pretty good as an identifier for the city of Houston. I haven't noticed any other references to this on any other forums, but it looks like almost an exact match to me (even the fade of the shadow looks like steam from the shuttle's trail).

bestauntie said

at 11:00 am on May 26, 2017

*I know this reply was almost a year ago but I still want to reply*

But we know 982 is the train. Do you know of any references to 982 this would be in the NASA area?

Odeyin said

at 1:27 pm on Apr 22, 2017

I like this. If you take the branch(as a path) with the '95' on it up to the middle of the area of '2' it is a similar path that is shown in this solution.

Guardian said

at 5:30 pm on May 20, 2017

Does anyone here know how the procedure to apply for a dig in Hermann Park? I'll be out there next weekend.

eric ramirez said

at 6:57 pm on May 20, 2017

I think you need permission from the citys park department ,dont wanna get a ticket or arrested for digging .

Lemistio said

at 7:37 pm on May 20, 2017

I have already sent a request to the Conservancy (last week) to be granted an audience with key decision makers in order to present Oregonians theory. In my opinion, it's in the Conservancies best internet to work with someone in order to find and publicize the discovery of this casque, however, the decision ultimately lies with the City/Conservancy. They could very well decide that's not worth dirupting the park even if there is verifiable evidence of the casques existence. That being said it is absolutely imperative that no one attempt to illegally dig this location without permission from the City/Conservancy. Not only is there an extreme risk of damaging the park/yourself, you might be subject to legal ramifications and potentially ruinining the chances of the other casques being recovered in different cities. Anyone interested in working to recover this casque should get in contact with Oregonian, who can further point you in the right direction or connect with the people already working on things here in Houston.

bestauntie said

at 10:54 am on May 26, 2017

Can I go to the meeting? Or did it pass already?! I live in Houston and I'm interested in helping. You can rent ground penetrating radars to 'check' to see if it is there so you will have proof before you dig.

Lemistio said

at 11:49 am on May 26, 2017

Unfortunately, the Conservancy did not respond to my initial appeal. We are now attempting to solidify our stance by working with professional contractors in order to give us some proposals on how they would execute a dig of this nature. We are fairly confident that the Conservancy won't even entertain the idea of a dig without a licensed, bonded and insured professional behind the equipment. My initial write up has been slower than I anticipated, however, I should be finished sometime this weekend.

GPR has been suggested, however, there are several reasons it might not be very effective. The proposed location of the casque in Hermann Park is heavily trafficked by walkers, joggers and very likely some vechiles. At a depth of no more than 3-3.5ft it is suggested that the casque has been pulverized to sand and small pieces of plexiglass over the years. This is supported by the fact that the 2004 Cleveland Casque was heavily damaged when it was extracted from a less trafficked location. When you add 13 additional years and millions of footsteps were are probably not going to be pulling any discernible artifacts out of the ground nor have any distinct targets to search for using GPR. The other issue is the top layer of the path (broken pieces of rock) would likely interfere with GPR readings when searching for similar objects.

I believe the most helpful thing at the moment would be if people had connections to help open doors at the Conservancy. Alternatively you can reach out Oregonian the admin and primary editor/genius behind this website for more information on who to contact and how you can get involved!

Lemistio said

at 7:52 pm on May 20, 2017

*Disrupting *ruining - Please excuse the typos as I'm posting via phone.

Guardian said

at 4:33 am on May 28, 2017

Although the solution given bere makes sense, I'm starting to doubt it. When I was at the park, I stood at the Sam Houston statue and saw the Mecom Fountain, reflecting pool, obelisk, 1981 train location, roundhouse at the zoo entrance, and sea lion exhibit are all in a row. The sea lions were there for years, and the pool was still there in 2012, last time I was there. It's covered by trees on Google Maps. The Mecom Fountain looked like a giant fountain with ears and it's patly made of GLASS, and the lake fountain was also in line in 1981. This is probably the line of sight reference--much simpler than I came up with earlier. Plus, the statue was the only place I could see all of them. Also, the FORTRESS my be the Mecom Colonnade, sharing its name with the fountain to the NORTH. And when the wind blows, it blows hard and COLD. I'm starting to think it's in the immediate area of the statue. I've already mentioned using the star on the map as the location with the map we've come up with; but I misjudged the location. I'll use PhotoShop tomorrow to get an exact location.

eric ramirez said

at 5:31 pm on May 28, 2017

I think that its not herman park why because of the pillars and the jinn .a jinn is someone to keep away evil in persia cultural they are some who are nice jinn but they are also known to change into animals hence the camel and rhino .you have too look at all the angles .the ones found in chicago and the the other place the painting was not where the jewel was in the painting .

Guardian said

at 11:30 pm on May 29, 2017

There's a building with two sets of seven pillars next to the reflecting pool, and I'm working on another map. based on the positions of the pillars in the paintng that looks like it targets the Sam Houston Memorial, He's on a horse, and the camel iis where the statue would be--the horse of the desert, and this is a desert setting in the painting.

bestauntie said

at 10:41 pm on May 29, 2017

I would like to propose a "meetup" of all the Houston searchers. We can meet at Hermann Park one weekend or after 5pm and 'walk' the various solutions together. Obviously, there will not be any digging at the time because we will need to get permission but perhaps we can come to one solid conclusion (with various great minds offering solutions) before we maybe present a dig site to the COH for possible approval. If you would be interested in meeting as a group (in a public place!), please email me through here or via email at mkfireflyunit@gmail.com and I can send details for a date/time.

Moderators-I do not know if this is allowed, please let me know if not!

Jaeden said

at 5:51 pm on Feb 4, 2018

Has anyone considered the possibility that "In December night" might be a reference to "The Twelfth Night" by William Shakespeare (December's the 12th, "Twelfth" month of the year). I did some research and found that Houston has hosted its annual "Shakespeare Festival" at the Miller Outdoor Theatre in Hermann Park since 1975. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Shakespeare_Festival

Each year they put on 2 Shakespeare plays that people can come and watch for free.

According to the Wikipedia page they did a production of "The Twelfth Night" in 1979 with Brett Cullen being one of the actors. It was performed alongside "Much Ado About Nothing".

In 1980 the Shakespeare Festival put on productions of "King Lear" followed by "As You Like It"

In 1981 (the year the treasures were hid) the Festival did "A Midsummer Night's Dream" (which fits with the Fair Folk), followed by "The Merchant of Venice"

In 1982 (the year the book was published and the hunt started) they did "The Tempest", followed by "Love's Labor's Lost".

Also there's believed to be a Shakespeare connection to the San Francisco cache.


Trudi said

at 12:52 pm on Feb 15, 2018

February 3rd it was very cold and raining here in Houston and my husband, daughter and I went out to Hermann just to scope things out since we are new to this wiki and The Treasure. I have to say that in the two hours we were out there we only saw four other people walk by the dig spot. During our time at "the spot" that has been proposed as a solution we could have probed uninterrupted for periods of about 20 minutes. The train was running (surprising due to the weather) so that is an approximation of that window of time on that day. The park police were not around. I think a dig is possible. I know, everyone should have permission to dig....just wanted to share. On a day like today no way it's 73 degrees outside.

Oregonian said

at 2:06 pm on Feb 15, 2018

All probably true. (And I thank you for actually visiting the spot!) Unfortunately, out of all the 10 remaining casques, I think Houston is the one where the permission and cooperation of the authorities is going to be most essential.

When all four trees were there, the solution would have been fairly simple: Just put an object on the ground and then shift it around a little bit until it's in line with each pair of trees. In a matter of minutes someone could nail down the spot to one square foot and get to digging. But those days are gone. Only one tree out of four is still there, so the search area is more likely to be a square yard on the surface. Plus there's now a really thick, hard path right over the burial spot. And I can't imagine that probing would do anything at all, because the path itself is made of small rocks. There are sure to be plenty more rocks and roots under the surface.

I'd love to see the Houston casque uncovered, but I don't think there's any chance of it until some wealthy donor (or wealthy TV show) ponies up the money to make it happen in a proper, careful way.

Guardian said

at 7:21 pm on Feb 15, 2018

I think Montreal is the most essential. I think it’s near the Museé Stewart, which is owned by the Canadian military. Houston is vital because of the number of cops on duty and how busy the parks are, but they’ve been really stingy about granting permission. I put in a request over the weekend and I haven’t even heard a peep out of them, yet,

Jaeden said

at 3:44 am on Feb 16, 2018

Does anyone know if Byron Preiss or John Palencar were a Freemason? Because some of the elements of this image are similar to this Masonic picture I found: https://goo.gl/images/QxNNoj

I did some research and found that the Holland Lodge is a few blocks Due North of the Sam Houston Statue in Herrmann Park; and that Sam Houston himself was a member of that Lodge. The building hasn't changed since it was erected in 1954. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_Lodge#/media/File%3AHolland_Lodge_1_CIMG7749.JPG

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland_Lodge

Please let me know what you guys think. :)

Brad said

at 11:59 pm on Nov 25, 2018

Just added a photo of the obelisk and reflection pool from 1980 and now from the Houston Parks Conservatory page...
http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/file/130400910/reflectionpoolbeforeand_after680x400-1200x0.jpg
in case anyone is wanting to see what that area looked like then and now.

nashw said

at 4:33 pm on Dec 31, 2018

Howdy all, been doing some research lately and as a native Houstonian, figured I would benefit us all and put some boots on the ground, although it probably won't lead to much. Went and snooped around Lake McGovern a bit and made a photo album with my results, feel free to ask me any questions you might have and I'll get back to ya when I can. Also, thanks to Oregonian for hooking me up with an account. If someone wants to rip these photos and upload them to the wiki, I wouldn't be mad, just thought this format was a bit easier on the eyes.

https://imgur.com/a/mTLtxuY

Oregonian said

at 10:25 am on Mar 24, 2020

Nice photo album! Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. A few notes about the pictures:

- On your top (map) image, the red dot is too far north and west for the original train location. If you look on the Hermann Park History page (here on the wiki) you can find the 1981 aerial and use the circular Visitors Services building to position things. It doesn't really make a difference though, because the spot where you've placed your dot is along the line of sight from the smokestack to the group of four trees. http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/103594203/Hermann%20Park
- Picture #6 shows that NE tree by the bench. Good to see it's still there! There are quite a few young trees in that photo though. It looks like the park has been doing some landscaping, which will make it harder to find the depression where the SW tree once stood.
- In Picture #13 your back is toward the line of sight through the fountain and the locomotive smokestack and you're facing directly toward the hiding spot. It looks like that black goose in the distance, beyond the first bench, is almost standing on top of the casque. But, again, I don't see the depression that was originally left when the SW tree was removed. Time passes and clues disappear. Thanks for taking pictures and sharing them!

rpuschman@gmail.com said

at 11:53 am on Apr 19, 2019

Fantastic work on this.. I have a couple of question/points.. I will also preface this by sighting my deep appreciation for all the information here.. I wouldn't have this without starting here and reading.
1. I am hung up in lines 17 thru 19 "Our strongest tower of delight Falls gently In December night"
I can not imagine this refers to anything else besides the Obelisk, and more specifically the shadow it cast in December as the sun sets.

2. Can you entertain the "center of four alike" has to do with what is around the Obelisk? I know the fountains around weren't there at the time, but looking at the 1981 ariel photo, it is possible there were 4 alike block type benches, etc. were there?

Looking at the 2017 ariel photo above, this is casting a morning shadow roughly in December.. the degree of the path of the sun in December correlates to this, so imagine that line in the evening, shadow casting to the east, landing almost exactly on the corner of the walkway that is there now. I have physically verified these onsite as well

Other support to the theory is the train track bridge points directly at the Obelisk as well (you can see this in some the pic above as well). Looking back to the starting point from here.. there is the fountain, train track, and the 982 engine..

Now for the scary part.. the border around the reflection pool, as well as the walking paths were not there either those were added in the 90s. So I fear disruption.

Thanks for reading.

Guardian said

at 6:29 am on May 12, 2019

Your number 1. is two separate literary references. The first is from Ayn Rand, and the passage as a whole is talking about life. He changed the word “Christmas” to “December” in the second, and it talks about snow. I’ve lost the source on that one. It’s part of a bunch of stuff leading me to Miller’s Hill and Atropos Key.

Ben Weber said

at 2:16 pm on Jul 15, 2019

I think lines 1 & 2 refer to the old Alfred C. Glassell School of Art building. It was opened in 1979 and incorporated large glass block walls. The school sits just north of Herman Park. It has since been replaced by a new building, but pictures are on the MFAH history page. https://www.mfah.org/about/mfah-architectural-history/ It doesn't change the solution but further solidifies Herman Park.

I have always thought that Line 15 was referring to young Cedar Elm trees and not Post Oaks. Cedar Elms have a winged stem and are common in the park, https://www.hermannpark.org/visit/park-guides/trees/. Although the leaves in the image appear to resemble Post Oak more than Cedar Elm.

Also, there has already been some acknowledgment that the pillars in the painting match pillars that used to be located inside the zoo.

Oregonian said

at 3:38 pm on Jul 15, 2019

Good catch! I think you are almost certainly correct about the Glassell School. It's amazing that no one has really made a case for it before now but, as you say, it doesn't really change the solution.

Ben Weber said

at 5:22 pm on Jul 15, 2019

I only remember one lion water fountain, which is in the same spot from the mid 80s. I think the photos you have are of the same location with significant renovation done around it. There seems to be a past claim that at least one other lion existed and no one seems to know if it is accurate. https://www.houstonpress.com/arts/you-can-own-the-lion-water-fountain-from-the-houston-zoo-7372606

Percy Walters said

at 3:30 am on Jun 8, 2023

I was told by a local that there was one lion by the children's zoo and another by the wooden fence outside the entrance of the zoo near the 982 train.

Guardian said

at 7:15 pm on Apr 2, 2020

You can bet money they have people watching for us.

Emily Schuman said

at 1:05 pm on Mar 5, 2023

J.R. Glass was one of the engineers that drove the 982. He was quoted in the paper saying that he would get up at 2AM, go to the roundhouse and fill the water tank. If you were as cold a Glass, you would be in a roundhouse at 2 am. I have too much information to share it all so i will share the most important parts. This picture is a masonic tracing board, and it tells the story of the first things that happened in Texas. The camel represents the signing of the declaration of independence, Americas first capitol and the camels that were brought in to aid the war. The Rhino is for the Galveston Bay area. It has over 10,000 years of history but the island is full of firsts. The moon is for space travel and being the first to walk on the moon. The masonic lodges are always facing east, so I believe the picture is backwards. The entrance to the zoo has 3 wings with a small split. it also had 5 flowers beds, in the shape of a #5 dice, the outside ones all have a tree in the center and the center one had a flagpole. I believe the flagpole is our greatest tower of delight and it falls gently every night. Kipp aquarium and the lake expansion were both going on, so the train had been moved prior to the time Byron visited. I feel the safest place at the time would have been the flagpole inside the entrance to the zoo. This was just destroyed within the last 2 years. There is also a flagpole on the outside of the zoo entrance but I'm unable to find images of that area during the 80s.

Oregonian said

at 11:25 am on Aug 16, 2023

With each passing year it's going to be harder to find the four trees that marked the hiding spot. Three of the trees are already gone and the depressions left by their root balls are gradually filling by erosion. Who knows how long the fourth tree will hang on? It would be good if someone would go out there with some brightly-colored ropes and carefully locate the spots where the three missing trees once stood. Stretching the ropes out to show the diagonals through the square of the four trees would pinpoint the spot, and lots of photos could document it for posterity. (It would be even better to get some measurements, like the distance to the bench and to the trash can, in case someone ever gets permission to dig.)

Lord.A said

at 3:16 pm on Dec 20, 2023

I have the opportunity to vist the park this winter. Does anyone know if it is worth checking out and what I should do while there?

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